(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[2008 NAIM (Ing Cup) Round 4-US Go Congress-Zhaonian Chen [8d\] vs Feng Yun [9p\]]PW[Zhaonian Chen]PB[Feng Yun]WR[8d]BR[9p]DT[2008-08-07]EV[North American Ing Masters Tournament]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Brian Leahy]C[Almdudler [3d\]: w00t
Almdudler [3d\]: another round?
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
USGO1 [-\]: starting
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[dp]C[Almdudler [3d\]: gogo zchen <3
USGO1 [-\]: This is Round 4, Table 1
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;W[pp]C[USGO15 [-\]: Comments from Guo Juan will be transcribed in my game
t0Strong4u [-\]: go Feng Yun!!!!!
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;B[cd]C[francium87 [2k\]: im for the underdog
Squirrel [-\]: which one is the underdog
ChemBoy613 [-\]: yeah!  Go Michael
francium87 [2k\]: 8d
ChemBoy613 [-\]: I just got to play pair go with him :)
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;W[pc]C[Harleqin [2d\]: I am for white
t0Strong4u [-\]: i am for black
Squirrel [-\]: i am for gray
Enraiha [8k\]: lol spelled mike's name wrong
jsc [14k\]: hahahahaha
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks, fixed it.
Reborned [1k\]: oo yea feng yun is playing
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;B[qe]C[mentat [3k?\]: ow yeah I got just in the beggining!
mike2096 [5k\]: hi chem
tempGuest: zchen is feng yun student
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;W[qi]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: hey mike
Tsuijin [1d\]: p16!
bigbeam [4d?\]: why is 9p on board 4
Tsuijin [1d\]: give us modern opening!!
Iceborg [6k\]: is it our bigbadwolf?
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;B[nd]C[bigbeam [4d?\]: no
francium87 [2k\]: oooh o16
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
bigbeam [4d?\]: one queestino
bigbeam [4d?\]: why is 9 at board 4
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary on this game by Guo Juan on USGO15
ChemBoy613 [-\]: Yeah!!!  Go Taisha
bigbeam [4d?\]: did he lose?
Enraiha [8k\]: lol mike would need the money too, i doubt princeton's cheap :)
USGO1 [-\]: Ask board 4
t0Strong4u [-\]: i want taisha joseki
bigbeam [4d?\]: oh ok
USGO1 [-\]: This is board 1... and that's all I know about
bigbeam [4d?\]: ^^
bigbeam [4d?\]: sorry
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;W[pe]
;B[pd]
;W[od]
;B[qd]C[indianayk [5d\]: Isn't Michael a student of Feng Yun's?
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;W[oc]
;B[oe]C[andrushek [10k\]: anyone know the approximate age of the players?
mentat [3k?\]: omg, the real taisha
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;W[pf]
;B[qc]C[Harleqin [2d\]: one way street to here
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol yeah
t0Strong4u [-\]: most people don't knwo how to pkay it
Enraiha [8k\]: yes he was, don't know if he still is
Harleqin [2d\]: white could not play p15, because the ladder didn't work
Enraiha [8k\]: which makes this match all the more epic :)
Harleqin [2d\]: and white could not O15 instead of Q14, because that would be too easy for black when white has R11
tangli [6k\]: Feng Yun is 42 y/o
Harleqin [2d\]: now the fun starts, white has options
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary for this game by Guo Juan on USGO15
Harleqin [2d\]: O17 or P18 are the usual choices
Harleqin [2d\]: oh, that should be better than my rambling ;)
francium87 [2k\]: back in 94 fen yung not a bad lookin gal. check out her schools web page to see her tournament history
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;W[ob]
;B[qb]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: cool lol
USGO1 [-\]: Harleqin, it's also nice to have rambling while seeing the game current
jsc [14k\]: this joseki?
t0Strong4u [-\]: yes
francium87 [2k\]: sure. it looks to have even potential 
francium87 [2k\]: just complicated
jsc [14k\]: yep it does thx
jsc [14k\]: oh i guess joseki is anything to have agreed upon <------- dumb when it comes to joseki
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;W[qf]
;B[mc]C[captnapalm [1k\]: we have seen (with eric lui) what happens when you give feng yun a big wall...
jsc [14k\]: ... are you talking to this 14k i dont understand a word of it
jsc [14k\]: xD
tianyake [3d\]: who leads in us open?
ketchup [6k\]: i think he was just typing to the audience, not anyone in particular
KOCMOHABT [-\]: 2 first board all players undefeat still
t0Strong4u [-\]: what happens when you give feng yun a big wall
KOCMOHABT [-\]: *boards
ketchup [6k\]: t0strong4u, she attacks a weak group of yours again and again
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi.
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary on this game by Guo Juan at USGO15
HowToLose [5k\]: woo zchen vs. feng yun
t0Strong4u [-\]: feng yun ftw
cmon67 [3d\]: where can you see standings of the tourney ?
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun has used 5 minutes, Michael Chen has used 17.
jsc [14k\]: wow O.o
Tsuijin [1d\]: there must be a tesuji to live
Tsuijin [1d\]: and do dmg
jsc [14k\]: no one thought about him dieing there =/ i did........
Tsuijin [1d\]: think positive!
Ijime [4k\]: just tenuki
jsc [14k\]: plz explain tenuki to me... im so pythetic
NateC [1d\]: I strongly disagree
spherical [7k\]: i was going to say, b must be overlooking something, but i can't figure out what.
Sweetmango: Tenuki means play elsewhere
Sweetmango: Or ignore
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;W[lc]C[jsc [14k\]: thx
Sweetmango: :)
Ijime [4k\]: maybe he wants to sacrifice it 
Tsuijin [1d\]: he probably does
Ijime [4k\]: just thinking of the best way
jsc [14k\]: O 15 then 
jsc [14k\]: right....
francium87 [2k\]: n18?
jsc [14k\]: it would go : o15 p14 n16 o17 n18 ???
Ijime [4k\]: o15 seems very submissive
blubb [1d\]: please explain "pythetic" to me, I'm so non-native
jsc [14k\]: it means very bad
francium87 [2k\]: pathetic is what he meant
blubb [1d\]: oic, that one I know
jsc [14k\]: oh yes... XD
t0Strong4u [-\]: is this part of the joseki??? i don't know this 
francium87 [2k\]: no
jsc [14k\]: O15 MAN
Turquoise [10k\]: pythetic  working for a pyrrhic victory in go
USGO15 [-\]: commentary from Guo Juan is in my game
francium87 [2k\]: n18
arasrsaras: I also like 0 15...
jsc [14k\]: ugh w should have went O15
jsc [14k\]: the DDk's will avenge!!!
francium87 [2k\]: 015 is what that word is
Ijime [4k\]: o15 just seems bad
francium87 [2k\]: its not always the capture of a stone that wins a game 
jsc [14k\]: .....meh.......
jsc [14k\]: i know that.....
arasrsaras: zzz
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;B[mb]C[topfar [1d\]: W is a 7d in KGS. Looks KGS is stronger than AGA, right?
Ijime [4k\]: nice
francium87 [2k\]: jsc your a cuckoo you know ;p but your like 1-0 with me right?
DarthVader [12k?\]: did the mogo game already happen?
mentat [3k?\]: players are stronger than other players not servers or organizations
Ijime [4k\]: i greatly prefer black
francium87 [2k\]: see n18 lik ize say
jsc [14k\]: dont get it ehats 1-0?
francium87 [2k\]: did we not play a game even where you beat me?
wyvern [?\]: x
jsc [14k\]: yes we did
jsc [14k\]: i beat you by 2.5
francium87 [2k\]: see 1 for you 0 for me
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;W[ne]
;B[of]C[francium87 [2k\]: 2.5?
francium87 [2k\]: thats close
francium87 [2k\]: i thought i lost by time
t0Strong4u [-\]: you lost to a 14k?
francium87 [2k\]: cause i passed out
jsc [14k\]: ( i dont really remeber us playing)
topfar [1d\]: AGA makes money from registration fee.
francium87 [2k\]: i was killing a bottle of jack by myself and almost had all of it down when i fell asleep
tianyake [3d\]: exchange
Ijime [4k\]: so in america, you have to pay to play go?
francium87 [2k\]: maybe it wasnt you
jsc [14k\]: i dont remeber any of that
francium87 [2k\]: really?
t0Strong4u [-\]: and yes, KGS is stronger than AGA
tianyake [3d\]: b give up top 3 stone and get right 3 stones
francium87 [2k\]: let me check my game records
jsc [14k\]: oo he went O15...
jsc [14k\]: N16
jsc [14k\]: im on a roll today
topfar [1d\]: looks B wins
arasrsaras: O 14 N 16...
Filtertip [1d\]: yeah
francium87 [2k\]: nevermind it was rookiego (18k)
Filtertip [1d\]: i don't see how w can recover from this...
Gay [4d\]: well your 1d 
jsc [14k\]: N16 PPL
arasrsaras: o 14 N 16?...
arasrsaras: o 14 first.
arasrsaras: i would prefer atleast.
topfar [1d\]: W was a student of B!
jsc [14k\]: yes yes yes 
Gay [4d\]: o14 helps black
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;W[og]C[Filtertip [1d\]: well he didnt play o14...
Gay [4d\]: ofcourse not
jsc [14k\]: gay is right about that
Tsuijin [1d\]: only one move!
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi.
jsc [14k\]: you have already said that ...
francium87 [2k\]: its a trade now.  white lives top black lives right. 
USGO1 [-\]: and there are new people in the room
gosmall [3d\]: who is leading in the tournament?
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;B[nf]C[jsc [14k\]: oh i c
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;W[me]
;B[md]C[mentat [3k?\]: this pro is quite strong
gosmall [3d\]: ft
gosmall [3d\]: should be as weak as ...
Ho [5k\]: 9p
francium87 [2k\]: pro is whote this time right? last game i cought feng was black
t0Strong4u [-\]: no....pro is black
jst4fun [5k\]: I am sure feng yun did homework on this variation.
francium87 [2k\]: again?
francium87 [2k\]: why?
Tsuijin [1d\]: no this is a pop quiz
t0Strong4u [-\]: isn't it nigiri
USGO1 [-\]: Players choose color by nigiri
francium87 [2k\]: and the komi is 8?
Ijime [4k\]: 8?!
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;W[le]
;B[ng]C[francium87 [2k\]: ruels say 8
Ijime [4k\]: why noy 7.5?
Ijime [4k\]: not*
andrewgr [2k\]: ING rules
andrewgr [2k\]: This is the ING cup
Ijime [4k\]: but then it can be draw
XY0908 [-\]: Ing wants to be different.
andrewgr [2k\]: he puts' up the prize money
jsc [14k\]: i can draw good
andrewgr [2k\]: so we use his rules
andrewgr [2k\]: no draw possible
jst4fun [5k\]: w seems in trouble
andrewgr [2k\]: counting done differently
Ijime [4k\]: where can i fing the ing rules?
Ijime [4k\]: find
theripper [2d\]: special bowls
jsc [14k\]: yep are they the ones that count stones>
jsc [14k\]: *?
andrewgr [2k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?IngRules
Jiang [12k\]: heh? what is this?
jsc [14k\]: ING tournament
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi.
Jiang [12k\]: ah'
Ijime [4k\]: oooh, black win ties
Ijime [4k\]: still weird though
t0Strong4u [-\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary on this game by Guo Juan at USGO15
PowerP [3d\]: o12?
Laeme [2d\]: white in trouble?
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;W[nh]
;B[mg]C[MrShintou [-\]: game is over .  must be frustrating for white
topfar [1d\]: W loses!
mauno [5k\]: b+res
Tsuijin [1d\]: i demand tesuji
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;W[ld]C[Ijime [4k\]: B is very good
Enraiha [8k\]: lol
KOCMOHABT [-\]: it's very strange 5k's judge 8d game
jsc [14k\]: no it aint
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;B[lb]
;W[kb]
;B[pb]C[mlnmiles [1d\]: not strange at all on kgs:)
MrShintou [-\]: if... a 5kyu can see its a mistake then ...
KOCMOHABT [-\]: then it means nothing
jsc [14k\]: its very strange that a [-\] judges a 5k's opinion on an 8 dan game
KOCMOHABT [-\]: especially mistake this or not ^^
Swordfish7 [5d\]: white done now
MrShintou [-\]: its sad when others judge otherss, this white is in error.  P18 is horrible choice should be O17.
Swordfish7 [5d\]: cooked
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;W[oh]C[topfar [1d\]: Is it over so early?
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;B[kg]C[Swordfish7 [5d\]: black is pro
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;W[jg]C[Swordfish7 [5d\]: impossible to catch up this much
t0Strong4u [-\]: where did w go wrong
MrShintou [-\]: the game will continue, but i doubt an 8d can catch up 10 points on a 9p.
Tsuijin [1d\]: just 10?
jsc [14k\]: wow
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;B[kf]C[Ijime [4k\]: cut
nekobasu [15k\]: what is wrong with p18?
jsc [14k\]: this is intense 10 points behind.... it will be dead even like that the whole game its crazy intense ( i doubt i will be even)
wjl [1d\]: O18
MrShintou [-\]: although chen has beaten strong pro opponents from behind :D
KOCMOHABT [-\]: what about n19 
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;W[jd]
;B[jf]C[KOCMOHABT [-\]: seems like a ko
KOCMOHABT [-\]: for me
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;W[ec]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: no ko
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;B[hd]C[KOCMOHABT [-\]: n19 
ZZZVVV: But why would w put a handicap on himself...
KOCMOHABT [-\]: how to answer?
USGO1 [-\]: that last stone hit the board hard.
mitani7: j 15
Swordfish7 [5d\]: yeah black played fast
Swordfish7 [5d\]: mush be pretty sure of it
Snaga [1d\]: n19 o18 ?
KOCMOHABT [-\]: o19 then
Laeme [2d\]: don't think it is ko
topfar [1d\]: B+res?
KOCMOHABT [-\]: no o19 ^^
Laeme [2d\]: p19?
t0Strong4u [-\]: n18 o18
mitani7: j15
t0Strong4u [-\]: @KOCMO
play234 [5d?\]: nice move
Swordfish7 [5d\]: ~_~
Swordfish7 [5d\]: no ko
francium87 [2k\]: so the pro smashed some kaya on h16? is that to intimidate? or is e17 that bad?
WildW [1k\]: is Feng Yun the woman?
Swordfish7 [5d\]: only thing white has out of that group is m19 and m12 sente
t0Strong4u [-\]: no....feng yun likes playing stones really hard
t0Strong4u [-\]: she does it all the time
KOCMOHABT [-\]: ok ok ^^
WildW [1k\]: oh
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi.
arasrsaras: blacks name is micheal
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;W[hc]C[WildW [1k\]: are there more women 9dan pros?
arasrsaras: ..
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;B[gc]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: yes wild
francium87 [2k\]: i haven't played a game on a real board in about a year
Tsuijin [1d\]: (Chen pries off mask and reveals Lee Sedol)
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;W[hb]C[KOCMOHABT [-\]: USGO, what about time ?
Snaga [1d\]: b win
USGO1 [-\]: E-Journal Team Staff: Todd Heidenreich (Game Recorder Coordinator); Game Recorders: Brian Leahy (Board 1); Brady Daniels (2); Richard Dolen (3); Dennis Wheeler (4); Tom Hodges (5); Dave Weimer (6); Phil Straus (7); Terry Fung (8); Gordon Castanza (9); Josh Gum (10); Huck Bennett (11); Troy Wahl (12); Paul Hardin (13); Cherry Shen (14); Todd Blatt (commentary simulcast); Matthew Heymering (KGS Admin); Steve Colburn (IT). Guo Juan; Live Board 1 Game Commentary; Chris Garlock, Managing Editor
cryptoz [-\]: Was Zhaonian her student?
Anberlin [6k\]: zhongxia?
francium87 [2k\]: i know a few of them...
Anberlin [6k\]: if you meen her opponent yesterday, yes he was
Swordfish7 [5d\]: i dont see any guo commentary
Laeme [2d\]: other game
cryptoz [-\]: i c thanks.
Anberlin [6k\]: np :p
Gay [4d\]: sword USGO15
jer3d: it looks like handi game
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;B[id]C[jsc [14k\]: i hope white comes from behing and wins
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;W[jc]C[MrShintou [-\]: g18 
francium87 [2k\]: same
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;B[ed]C[francium87 [2k\]: powerplay
jsc [14k\]: im bored...
HowToLose [5k\]: then don't watch
francium87 [2k\]: go 2 egr or 4chan
USGO15 [-\]: she is talking, and i'm typing
iNguyen [4d\]: white cannot save this mistake
iNguyen [4d\]: better to resign
MrShintou [-\]: so embarasing to resign..
t0Strong4u [-\]: b is even getting a wall...lol
jsc [14k\]: wow your right
mitani7: b won
Almdudler [3d\]: a little weak for 8d ~~
MrShintou [-\]: he just makes mistake on joseki and followed through with it.
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;W[gd]C[USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun has 71 minutes left, and MIchael Chen has 51
mitani7: w dosn't give up so easily
IgoCRAZY [9k\]: f16 
Rakeliem [1d\]: g15
iNguyen [4d\]: i think black should f16 f17
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;B[ge]C[iNguyen [4d\]: and get the fame over with
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;W[fd]
;B[fe]
;W[fc]
;B[dc]C[iNguyen [4d\]: too good of a result 
presque [5k\]: h15 now
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;W[ee]C[iNguyen [4d\]: white is far behind
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;B[dd]C[ahiman [5k\]: w getting closed in tight
francium87 [2k\]: sente to expand and reduce
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;W[lh]
;B[lg]C[seishiro [15k\]: kind of risky
iNguyen [4d\]: i don't like this pepp
Rakeliem [1d\]: i love it
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;W[cj]C[TarasBob [8k\]: whats wrong with the peep?
iNguyen [4d\]: correct black's weakness
guiguistar [1d\]: and iming
guiguistar [1d\]: timing
guiguistar [1d\]: free for b to play anytime
Rakeliem [1d\]: but it's nice fit with other white stones
iNguyen [4d\]: not really
TanGeng [2d?\]: the gap is a big deal
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;B[cl]C[Rakeliem [1d\]: atleast he didn't play h15
TanGeng [2d?\]: only a solid wall is worth much there
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi. 
USGO1 [-\]: E-Journal Team Staff: Todd Heidenreich (Game Recorder Coordinator); Game Recorders: Brian Leahy (Board 1); Brady Daniels (2); Richard Dolen (3); Dennis Wheeler (4); Tom Hodges (5); Dave Weimer (6); Phil Straus (7); Terry Fung (8); Gordon Castanza (9); Josh Gum (10); Huck Bennett (11); Troy Wahl (12); Paul Hardin (13); Cherry Shen (14); Todd Blatt (commentary simulcast); Matthew Heymering (KGS Admin); Steve Colburn (IT). Guo Juan; Live Board 1 Game Commentary; Chris Garlock, Managing Editor 
USGO1 [-\]: commentary at USGO15
jsc [14k\]: wow that was alot of writing
TarasBob [8k\]: who is Zhaonian Chen? a former insei?
seishiro [15k\]: yeah
Tsuijin [1d\]: he was insei?
captnapalm [1k\]: no
TarasBob [8k\]: He has no chance against a 9p I think
seishiro [15k\]: he is a pro now
mentat [3k?\]: he is having a chance now
Tsuijin [1d\]: ....
AtkAndDef [3d\]: lol
captnapalm [1k\]: hes a college student at princeton, previous student of feng yun
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;W[ef]C[Musketeer [3d\]: w can try
Rocker [4d\]: CAMONG
TarasBob [8k\]: B C13
KOCMOHABT [-\]: eeeee
KOCMOHABT [-\]: Rocker!!
TarasBob [8k\]: or E8
mitani7: w+0.5
change [-\]: w is not bad?
Rocker [4d\]: HI , MY comrade
Musketeer [3d\]: still early
KOCMOHABT [-\]: Hello, my friend ^^
Singer [10k\]: P18 dead?
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;B[cg]C[TarasBob [8k\]: yep, I was right :-D
TarasBob [8k\]: C13
Rakeliem [1d\]: nice tara
Rocker [4d\]: i am happy that i have two jr whoppers with me now
seishiro [15k\]: black should try to make lifeby playing at j13
AtkAndDef [3d\]: i have reese cups :D
TarasBob [8k\]: I dont think C10 was a good move
TarasBob [8k\]: cuz of white wall at C16
Rocker [4d\]: reese is not food
TarasBob [8k\]: I mean black wall
AtkAndDef [3d\]: sure it is
Swordfish7 [5d\]: c10 ok
Swordfish7 [5d\]: e14 overplay
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;W[hf]C[Rocker [4d\]: its a treat
Tsuijin [1d\]: overplay is KGS way!
seishiro [15k\]: he is going to invdade
mentat [3k?\]: black mistake
mentat [3k?\]: c13
AtkAndDef [3d\]: bk isnt food, well it is for rats
TarasBob [8k\]: why not white at C7 instead of C10?
Swordfish7 [5d\]: c13 is good punishing move
seishiro [15k\]: yeah c13
Rakeliem [1d\]: h15
Swordfish7 [5d\]: now just connect white cnt do anything
mitani7: h15
Rakeliem [1d\]: time for black to get walled in
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
Rakeliem [1d\]: I think this is trouble
AtkAndDef [3d\]: Bk for rats
KOCMOHABT [-\]: i'm rat ^^
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
Richdad [5d\]: the e14 c13 exchqange is really painful for w
beer [1d\]: Guo Juan says W j14 if B h15
mitani7: w can't do anything
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
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;B[he]C[AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
TarasBob [8k\]: where is Guo Juan? how do you know what she says?
og [9k\]: guys, stop
francium87 [2k\]: j14
]
;W[cf]C[Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
]
;B[bf]C[mentat [3k?\]: well, at least it is sente for black
francium87 [2k\]: oh nice
og [9k\]: taras, join USGO15's game for her commentary transcribed
Musketeer [3d\]: this H14 exchange is painful for black
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
beer [1d\]: USGO15
KOCMOHABT [-\]: rats is for reese and BK, ok&
seishiro [15k\]: yeah b should play at j14
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
EnHoeDan [4k?\]: BK is for reese
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
beer [1d\]: STOP IT!!!!!!
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
KOCMOHABT [-\]: Rock ^^
mentat [3k?\]: admin, help
Funkfreed [7k?\]: reese witherspoon?
Rocker [4d\]: reese is for rats
AtkAndDef [3d\]: BK is for rats
EnHoeDan [4k?\]: rats are for rats
seishiro [15k\]: i think you should stop saying that
Rakeliem [1d\]: what does all this mean
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;W[bg]C[francium87 [2k\]: is this a meem?
cashcash [5d\]: haa
AtkAndDef [3d\]: i say burgerking is rat food
cashcash [5d\]: a 15 k spoke about reeses vs bk what do u know
Hylebos [4k\]: Guys...
KOCMOHABT [-\]: w want to play d13 or e13 in sente
AtkAndDef [3d\]: he say reese cups are rat food
mentat [3k?\]: you are lucky bigdoug is not here
KGSPlus [-\]: please keep comments related to the game
Hylebos [4k\]: Big game going on...
seishiro [15k\]: now you just being random
TarasBob [8k\]: stop talking about burgerking
Richdad [5d\]: w showing kiai
cashcash [5d\]: i want bk
cashcash [5d\]: now
Rakeliem [1d\]: what's kiai?
francium87 [2k\]: /B ftw
og [9k\]: fighting spirit
mlnmiles [1d\]: w aiming for j14, no?
seishiro [15k\]: your right
seishiro [15k\]: j14 will be a good move
blackrain [6k\]: yes aim is j14
mlnmiles [1d\]: not yet
mlnmiles [1d\]: j14 too soon
seishiro [15k\]: i dont think so
mlnmiles [1d\]: doesnt work yet
francium87 [2k\]: he is also trying to take the corner
blackrain [6k\]: e14 stones to weak atm
KOCMOHABT [-\]: there is Rocker?
Rocker [4d\]: muhahaha
AtkAndDef [3d\]: rocker!!!
mlnmiles [1d\]: Francium, the centre would be a little bit too ambitious imho as b has a nice influencxe there than ks to c8 and stones around l13
Rocker [4d\]: keep talk related to game
Shizuka [?\]: how much time left?
francium87 [2k\]: i didnt say the center
francium87 [2k\]: i said corner
mlnmiles [1d\]: corner, ah
mlnmiles [1d\]: sorry:)
mlnmiles [1d\]: too sleepy:)
francium87 [2k\]: the shape at d16 is bad. so its aji is good
]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[ce]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi. 
mitani7: I think that  is useless for white to continue to play 
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;W[ch]C[Richdad [5d\]: thats why you are not playing
]
;B[eg]C[francium87 [2k\]: c10 is looking pretty silly now
]
;W[cf]C[noned [2d\]: jie li isnt taking part?
]
;B[ff]C[Swordfish7 [5d\]: but this is kinda horrible for white
francium87 [2k\]: snap back
]
;W[eh]C[mlnmiles [1d\]: :/
ketchup [6k\]: ..?
]
;B[fg]C[Singer [10k\]: If jie li were here, he would already have pwned everyone
USGO1 [-\]: Commentary on this game by Guo Juan at USGO15
Rakeliem [1d\]: you mean yet li?
mlnmiles [1d\]: looks awful for w
Richdad [5d\]: afterb c13 in sente , w achieved little to nothing here
Rakeliem [1d\]: jet*
Rocker [4d\]: whos having the best record so far?
fly [1k\]: w getting owned
francium87 [2k\]: white shape is bad. he is going to end in gote and black takes r6
fly [1k\]: pesky pros... 
USGO1 [-\]: Please keep comments related to this game.
Richdad [5d\]: w q6 now
fly [1k\]: Hey Brian!
Richdad [5d\]: cant take gote on anything
Richdad [5d\]: not even c6
mlnmiles [1d\]: maybe Mingjiu, Rocker
Laeme [2d\]: w has sente, but b has some points, and w still kind of weak, I still prefer b position
]
;W[cn]C[mentat [3k?\]: and so, w was punished, but he is not scared
fly [1k\]: Too young to be scared
Rocker [4d\]: b is ahead by only 2.5  its still playable
Rocker [4d\]: thx mln
mentat [3k?\]: yeah, a stone at max
KOCMOHABT [-\]: rock you are here
KOCMOHABT [-\]: ^^
mentat [3k?\]: and there is komi
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;B[dk]
;W[cq]
;B[cp]
;W[dq]
;B[ep]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
;B[co]
;W[fq]
;B[cg]C[blackrain [6k\]: um ouch
Musketeer [3d\]: w shouldn't go into corner
francium87 [2k\]: game over man game over...
Singer [10k\]: Is this ko really so big?
ndfsoccer [2k\]: yes
mlnmiles [1d\]: sure
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;W[la]C[NeverCare [?\]: w is weak and ko can destroy shape
USGO15 [-\]: how much time is left
Musketeer [3d\]: now c12 gr under attack
USGO1 [-\]: White has 38 minutes
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;B[na]C[Richdad [5d\]: m19 worth about 20 points
tianyake [3d\]: w not bad
]
;W[cf]C[USGO1 [-\]: I can't see black's clock but she's got around an hour
blackrain [6k\]: br6?
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;B[qn]C[blackrain [6k\]: :)
francium87 [2k\]: rofelmayo....
Richdad [5d\]: you just said your initials and your rank
NeverCare [?\]: black rain are you playing right now?
blackrain [6k\]: lol
NeverCare [?\]: :)
Richdad [5d\]: dont ask me how i noticed that :)
mentat [3k?\]: black rain, are you relatedo to gengle rain?
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;W[ql]C[Singer [10k\]: Doesn't R5 make more sense as a response?
Richdad [5d\]: i doubt ko is worth it
Singer [10k\]: Or am I just being foolishly 10k? :P
blackrain [6k\]: nope 
og [9k\]: r5 bad
USGO1 [-\]: please keep comments related to this game.
mentat [3k?\]: I don't know, singer. I thing both are fine
francium87 [2k\]: q12 area dont wanze fites
cashcash [5d\]: w+8
t0Strong4u [-\]: o3
t0Strong4u [-\]: nvm
francium87 [2k\]: r5 sayz fite mees
og [9k\]: contact makes the stone stronger, come on guys, we know this
BattousaiX [-\]: or do we?
truesaint [2k\]: this stone is kryptonite
Medou [1d\]: Chen Zhaonian has the best result so far
BattousaiX [-\]: lol truesaint xD
Richdad [5d\]: he won 3 games?
jsc [14k\]: hmm i just went to play a game and these ppl have played 10 moves
Medou [1d\]: Chen Zhaonian, Koh Juyong, Yang Yilun and Feng Yun has won 3 games
Laeme [2d\]: contact doesn't always make stronger, sometimes it takes base or eye shape away in sente
francium87 [2k\]: in some cases it will make your opponent thin too... like the r5 joseki that would not work here
Richdad [5d\]: very good for zchen
arasrsaras: JSC wanna play ?
Richdad [5d\]: how many rounds?
Richdad [5d\]: 8?
Singer [10k\]: Is w Zchen?
Medou [1d\]: 3 rounds
Richdad [5d\]: in total
Medou [1d\]: So 3/3 for them
Medou [1d\]: Ok oh
Singer [10k\]: Wasn't Zchen called michael in the US open?
Rocker [4d\]: whats next move for b????
Medou [1d\]: Five round in total
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;B[cg]C[Richdad [5d\]: (also darkmage here. he once had a9d account)
Medou [1d\]: Mingjiu is at 2W - 1L
og [9k\]: michael is his english name, i think, singer
Rocker [4d\]: hes a bit weaker than oysy gentle rain etc i think!
mlnmiles [1d\]: Mwdou, close to 2w-2l
Singer [10k\]: Everyone is weaker than oysy ;)
Souhaku [-\]: huh
Rocker [4d\]: but oysy gentlerain bad wolf are kind of same league 
captnapalm [1k\]: why does the us open and ing cup have different line up?
Singer [10k\]: Are they the strongest amateurs get without being pro or Jie li?
Medou [1d\]: Hard times for Mingjiu yes :(
Medou [1d\]: But he can do it !
francium87 [2k\]: you can be strong as pro without having the rank
Singer [10k\]: which USgo is showing mingjiu?
Richdad [5d\]: oh impossible, medou
Richdad [5d\]: you have to win 5 games , if 32 players and 5 games
USGO1 [-\]: MingJiu is at table 3
Singer [10k\]: thanks
Richdad [5d\]: i guess the tournament is smiling at feng yun
Musketeer [3d\]: this is not goods for white
USGO1 [-\]: white is currently out of the room
Swordfish7 [5d\]: where is results on who has how many wins
Rocker [4d\]: how many games they have to play to finish this torney?
Medou [1d\]: http://www.usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/32 If someone interested by results so far :)
francium87 [2k\]: is hes cryinz in zee restroomz?
USGO1 [-\]: he's back... 33 minutes left
Rocker [4d\]: 10000 $ for the winner...
captnapalm [1k\]: no its 10k total prize pool....split up i think
NeverCare [?\]: is that what us tourneys are paying out now?
francium87 [2k\]: american ones
Swordfish7 [5d\]: yeah winner probably only gets about 2 or so
beer [1d\]: WoW, that's bigger than WAGC title?
francium87 [2k\]: amature ones
Musketeer [3d\]: the easy way out is tenuki
NeverCare [?\]: not many pro tourneys in us
Swordfish7 [5d\]: wagc title doesnt give out any money
Rocker [4d\]: oh
Singer [10k\]: what's wagc?
Richdad [5d\]: if it gave money it wouldnt be amateur anymore
francium87 [2k\]: the north american oza right? thats got pro's at it
Rocker [4d\]: i thought 10k goes to 1st place winner hehe
NeverCare [?\]: Handi?
Swordfish7 [5d\]: only asian tournies have that kind of prizes
francium87 [2k\]: no
Ophelia [8k?\]: how much time is left?
SunnyD [3d\]: You win equipment at WAGC
NeverCare [?\]: then it isnt fair or, it isnt a pro tourney
Rocker [4d\]: how much oysi won from xy by winning xy invitaional??
NeverCare [?\]: *looks around*
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;W[nq]C[aussiemate [7k\]: is oysi  a pro?
]
;B[dh]C[NeverCare [?\]: well?!?! answer gods where are you links now?!?!
]
;W[fp]C[og [9k\]: so quick.
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;B[qp]C[Singer [10k\]: Oysy is awesome - better than pro!
SunnyD [3d\]: M10
Rocker [4d\]: oysi is a ppro chef who makes very oyshi food
andy8452 [5k\]: it was like $1000 or 5000 if im thinking of the right comp rocker
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 4 of the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament!  Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes.  The games are being broadcast by the American Go E-Journal; free go news from around the world, delivered free via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi. 
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;W[qq]C[aussiemate [7k\]: $1,000 a plate for sushi?
]
;B[rq]C[USGO1 [-\]: This is table 1
USGO15 [-\]: theres $1.50 per plate sushi next to congress
Rocker [4d\]: hmm that means xy is a rich man
USGO1 [-\]: white has 29 minutes left, black has 51
blackrain [6k\]: omg mmm sushi
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;W[qo]
;B[rp]C[NeverCare [?\]: 10000 in prizes?
HowToLose [5k\]: oops?
NeverCare [?\]: thats lame, no cash?
houth [7k\]: q6 ? 
aussiemate [7k\]: if you get a cash prize that makes you a pro
Rocker [4d\]: q5
NeverCare [?\]: ...
houth [7k\]: then 
houth [7k\]: ?
houth [7k\]: it doesn't look too good
Singer [10k\]: Who wins?
NeverCare [?\]: woa woa but the last tourney i went to had money prize
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;W[ro]C[NeverCare [?\]: that makes me a pro?
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;B[pq]C[SunnyD [3d\]: yes
]
;W[po]C[NeverCare [?\]: sweet
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;B[oq]C[mentat [3k?\]: lol
]
;W[qr]
;B[rr]C[blackrain [6k\]: ><
NeverCare [?\]: w looks angry
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;W[op]
;B[pr]C[houth [7k\]: lol
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;W[or]
;B[qs]C[ennuistic [1k\]: white behind on territory?
hellboy [-\]: b q2 instead of p3 was better ?
SunnyD [3d\]: W looks like liv tyler
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;W[bn]C[houth [7k\]: a bit 
Rocker [4d\]: ?
houth [7k\]: white has a chance
NeverCare [?\]: she acts
Musketeer [3d\]: w not that bad
houth [7k\]: y not q 3 
houth [7k\]: is c6 that big
Musketeer [3d\]: might have a chance to play e10
houth [7k\]: thats a good move
aminao: darkmage back :)
USGO1 [-\]: Yilun Yang is watching the game, taking a break from his at table 2
houth [7k\]: wow 
NeverCare [?\]: whats he wearing?
Souhaku [-\]: ...
Gueust [7k\]: xD
SunnyD [3d\]: congress t-shirt
francium87 [2k\]: can you ask him to take it off.... slowly?
NeverCare [?\]: now thats a bit much
ennuistic [1k\]: ...
francium87 [2k\]: rofl
Gueust [7k\]: pffff :p
ennuistic [1k\]: he's > 50 years old
houth [7k\]: come on comment 
mentat [3k?\]: this is a job for bigdoug
houth [7k\]: the game
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;B[dn]C[Rocker [4d\]: mentat!
houth [7k\]: she back off ?
NeverCare [?\]: *crack of the whip*
Rocker [4d\]: r u from montevideo??
USGO1 [-\]: Please take your personal chats out of this room.
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks,
houth [7k\]: a 5 
Rocker [4d\]: !
houth [7k\]: hey usgo1
houth [7k\]: mind give some comments
houth [7k\]: on the game
USGO1 [-\]: For comments, see USGO15
NeverCare [?\]: its w turn
houth [7k\]: o
NeverCare [?\]: there
aussiemate [7k\]: d7 ?
blackrain [6k\]: think w should k3 or n12
Rocker [4d\]: n4
mentat [3k?\]: I'm from 1000 miles north of montevideo
NeverCare [?\]: im like the next town over....from there
csgo [?\]: f6
aussiemate [7k\]: you a damn yankee?
Rocker [4d\]: ok
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;W[io]C[francium87 [2k\]: b8 or d7?
blackrain [6k\]: agressive
jshift [20k?\]: USGO - what's the time?
NeverCare [?\]: 7:51 et
mentat [3k?\]: j5 looks like a weird but ggood move
USGO1 [-\]: white has 24 minutes left, black has much more
NeverCare [?\]: lol
mentat [3k?\]: id go for l6, just for simetry
NeverCare [?\]: usgo do you get paid for doing this?
Rocker [4d\]: K6
Hinomorii [1k\]: rotf;
Haploloy [3k\]: All the USGO people are volunteers
SunnyD [3d\]: K5
Singer [10k\]: I'd volunteer! :D
NeverCare [?\]: oooh I bet they get really neat t_shirts
Singer [10k\]: If I were older than 16...
NeverCare [?\]: or a convict
NeverCare [?\]: lol
NeverCare [?\]: jk
Hinomorii [1k\]: it/s always like this, on Polish Championship evryone were transmitting games.
NeverCare [?\]: okay back to the game
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;B[jn]C[francium87 [2k\]: its a donkey right?
Rocker [4d\]: MUHAHAHAHAHA I HAVE PROS TOUCH 
NeverCare [?\]: why k6?
Musketeer [3d\]: J6
houth [7k\]: its pushing w
blackrain [6k\]: capping move
aussiemate [7k\]: h7 
houth [7k\]: she is confident to reduce it 
w00t [2d\]: rocker rocks
NeverCare [?\]: rocker you predicted it why did she k6?
houth [7k\]: n3 ?
Rocker [4d\]: I HAVE sensitive feel for reduction like a professional!
francium87 [2k\]: had is what i heard. 
NeverCare [?\]: *dryly* yeah youre a champ so its a reduction eh?
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;W[jo]C[MrShintou [-\]: the bottom is smaller than you think.  black can o2
aussiemate [7k\]: aww
ryoku [11k\]: whats does 9 p mean
USGO1 [-\]: both players are up at the moment
w00t [2d\]: dont push your lucky rock
Rocker [4d\]: yeah its reduction
Swordfish7 [5d\]: yeah o2 gigantic
NeverCare [?\]: are they going to fight?
Singer [10k\]: O2 is only a few points, isn't it?
houth [7k\]: yeah
Singer [10k\]: White N2?
MrShintou [-\]: only a few is sente.
Singer [10k\]: after o2, that is...
Hinomorii [1k\]: 9p - 9 dan proffesional
Swordfish7 [5d\]: with the sente follow-up at n1 its like 15 pts
USGO1 [-\]: white has 22 minutes left, black has 45 and counting
lemuria [2d?\]: 9p means that someone wrote 6d upside down
francium87 [2k\]: score estimator is wacky atm lol
MrShintou [-\]: agree sword fish.
USGO1 [-\]: they're back
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;B[kn]C[blackrain [6k\]: id don't get it pg
MrShintou [-\]: n4 
andy8452 [5k\]: dangeroud 4 white??
]
;W[in]C[Singer [10k\]: So if aguilar stands on his head, he's 9p?
andy8452 [5k\]: lol
lemuria [2d?\]: you have to ask him
Swordfish7 [5d\]: very hard to attack black
andy8452 [5k\]: haw haw singer
Swordfish7 [5d\]: bottom is not enough on its own
Musketeer [3d\]: o2 = 20 points
Rocker [4d\]: k8
captnapalm [1k\]: hehe se is crazy confused
Singer [10k\]: I think the dans have a greater understanding of O2 than me :S
francium87 [2k\]: obviously the attck on C5 must continue
aussiemate [7k\]: SE is infallible
]
;B[jl]
;W[im]C[NeverCare [?\]: why arent you in the tourney rocker?
aminao: can w B8 ?
francium87 [2k\]: rofl aussie xD
NeverCare [?\]: youre just sandbagging arent you
mentat [3k?\]: rocker is not american
hori: singer, dans know only a tiny percentage more than you do
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;B[lk]C[Rocker [4d\]: M8
Musketeer [3d\]: that's why w push on j7
MrShintou [-\]: ouch...
Rocker [4d\]: OOPS
Singer [10k\]: Makes enough of a difference for them
francium87 [2k\]: i love that shape
francium87 [2k\]: its so agressive
mentat [3k?\]: dans are just kyus thet get lucky all the time
topfar [1d\]: It is a hard game for white
PowerP [3d\]: i cant see w winning this game
Swordfish7 [5d\]: the diffrence between 1d and 10k might be 20 times bigger then the one between 10k and 30k
Singer [10k\]: Agressive like a spade
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;W[bl]C[Singer [10k\]: Heck yeah!
francium87 [2k\]: there it is
Pedobeer: lol
francium87 [2k\]: thats whats up
Pedobeer: test
aminao: :)
francium87 [2k\]: do you aprove pedobeen?
francium87 [2k\]: r*
Singer [10k\]: It took me six months to get to 10k from 20k, and if I could reach 1d in another six, I wouldn't complain ;)
Pedobeer: i pwn @ this game peapol 
Pedobeer: i will pwn everyone
PowerP [3d\]: 1d to 5d even bigger
Pedobeer: how do i play this
francium87 [2k\]: you must post your seal of aproval 
NeverCare [?\]: pwn?
zc3k [1k\]: B9
NeverCare [?\]: english please, this isnt halo
Pedobeer: s8
Singer [10k\]: pwn is like own except better
blackrain [6k\]: think using the we6 would have been better
MrShintou [-\]: i remember when i was 17kyu and i thought i was awesome.  that was before cgoban3 destroyed 30kyu - 18kyu.
francium87 [2k\]: pown. like own. cept spelled wrong is pwn. old video game history
Rocker [4d\]: A6
Julian [3k\]: I got to 3k playing igowin and watching KGS. ;)
francium87 [2k\]: whats your top rank on igowin?
USGO1 [-\]: Please take personal chats out of this room
USGO1 [-\]: Thank you.
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;B[an]C[MrShintou [-\]: b7 for black
Pedobeer: im a pedo 
Rocker [4d\]: MUHAHAHA
mentat [3k?\]: yo, b is going for the slaughter
Rocker [4d\]: I AM text messaging feng
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;W[dm]C[MrShintou [-\]: haha
liberaji [2k\]: yep Feng Yun is bloodthirsty
Singer [10k\]: Can w attack K8 to get large central territories?
Rocker [4d\]: cut
Rocker [4d\]: d7
Pedobeer: peapol! im back 
Pedobeer: ok
mentat [3k?\]: that doesnt seem weak enought to attack, singer
csgo [?\]: if b doesn't respond well, b may be slaughtered
Peaches [3k\]: it's tough to attack k8 because l12 is there it seems
topfar [1d\]: C7?
Rocker [4d\]: no
svgo [3k\]: admins are asleep?
Singer [10k\]: Surely, if it has no eyes and no base and is surrounded by white influence...?
w00t [2d\]: e7, i guess
Rocker [4d\]: maybe d7 bad
blackrain [6k\]:  b7
liberaji [2k\]: E7!
blackrain [6k\]: doh
Peaches [3k\]: hmm, it's not surrounded singer
idle [9k\]: fear the abomination of the dark, for it has no eyes and no base!
MrShintou [-\]: b7,,, not so good =D
Peaches [3k\]: those 3 stranded white stones up top aren't really blocking its escape
liberaji [2k\]: N12 and L12 are big holes
NeverCare [?\]: c7?
Laeme [2d\]: b7 !
Rocker [4d\]: its either e6 or c7 
zc3k [1k\]: C7
Peaches [3k\]: boo rocker
Rocker [4d\]: but c7 let w live.......
mentat [3k?\]: it is e7
Peaches [3k\]: you only get one pick
Rocker [4d\]: hehe
liberaji [2k\]: i bet on red!
idle [9k\]: b7
lemuria [2d?\]: b7 looks fine
Laeme [2d\]: b7, just cut, connect, and think later
lemuria [2d?\]: w will live anyway
mentat [3k?\]: b7 doesnt work
Rocker [4d\]: oh
Pedobeer: i should use B8 because B8 = Black 8, and if you choose it at biljart you alway's win
Laeme [2d\]: depends on what you want it to do
idle [9k\]: a think later
lemuria [2d?\]: and b7 leaves best result
blackrain [6k\]: b7 dead
svgo [3k\]: what's wrong with c7?
Rocker [4d\]: b7 looks good
idle [9k\]: my favourite
Musketeer [3d\]: b can also try e7
idle [9k\]: c7 icut
mentat [3k?\]: e7 looks best
Laeme [2d\]: b7 connect, b will either take the 4 stones or keep left dead good
idle [9k\]: is no cut c7
]
;B[cm]C[TanGeng [2d?\]: I don't like b7
]
;W[bm]C[aminao: if w live, must end in bad eyeshape for b
]
;B[em]C[Laeme [2d\]: ahh :(
Rocker [4d\]: oops
mentat [3k?\]: ehe, she changed the order
Singer [10k\]: can b kill w's left?
Rocker [4d\]: i had to stick with the 1st pick
MrShintou [-\]: epic fail...
Rocker [4d\]: d9
Saikrepta [4k\]: with this, white lives, right?
Musketeer [3d\]: w's left side alive
Pedobeer: Free candy! 
]
;W[bh]C[USGO1 [-\]: played very gently
PowerP [3d\]: interesting
Pedobeer: how do i play this game
hori: it'll now be very hard fo black to win
topfar [1d\]: C9?
idle [9k\]: mb she wants to KILL THEM ALL
blackrain [6k\]: b c9 fot the kill?
mentat [3k?\]: bloothirsty old woman
Rocker [4d\]: d11
liberaji [2k\]: "I'll take D10 for block"
NeverCare [?\]: b10 isnt a vital point?
Musketeer [3d\]: now, white is leading
blubb [1d\]: how much time is left?
MrShintou [-\]: you know the answer will be something like a13... always is.
zc3k [1k\]: C9
liberaji [2k\]: zchen is no match for FY!!!!
mentat [3k?\]: w should invade L3 to take it back. lol
PowerP [3d\]: clearly zchen is a very good match
]
;B[fo]C[lemuria [2d?\]: what did se drink today ?
zc3k [1k\]: w r zcchen?
topfar [1d\]: B will get the center!
]
;W[go]
;B[gn]
;W[fn]
;B[eo]C[Musketeer [3d\]: not much in center
MrShintou [-\]: black missed F2
idle [9k\]: nice gam
MrShintou [-\]: white*
idle [9k\]: really
]
;W[hp]C[topfar [1d\]: O2?
Musketeer [3d\]: n3
tianyake [3d\]: N3,M3
csgo [?\]: b d11 and then j8 
mentat [3k?\]: these wont work
NeverCare [?\]: o4?
MrShintou [-\]: O2 is enough.
Rocker [4d\]: no
jkrd: n3 
hori: enough for what? slight loss?
idle [9k\]: uh
Musketeer [3d\]: black behind
Musketeer [3d\]: o2 is not good
idle [9k\]: y
]
;B[pl]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: may be can kill Bąč ?
idle [9k\]: with my count
kukulis4 [2d\]: B12
idle [9k\]: shes even quite far behind
Rocker [4d\]: u r very strong 9k
csgo [?\]: p8
Singer [10k\]: 9k is phenomenally strong :P
]
;W[pk]C[idle [9k\]: im just learning to count
]
;B[ol]C[topfar [1d\]: B is leading!
Rocker [4d\]: hes a sing digit , and u r double digit
idle [9k\]: so
PowerP [3d\]: w has a lot of bad aji
Jenghis [2k\]: I just got here : ( is the white group on the left side alive? 
mentat [3k?\]: yes it is
idle [9k\]: if i dont tell anyone i cant see if im wrong, right?
Laeme [2d\]: you can read that yourself
Singer [10k\]: But I'm so close to being a single digit it hardly matters :P
MrShintou [-\]: b = 53, w= 49+komi i count
]
;W[mp]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah, very equal game
Jenghis [2k\]: It seems close to death to me.
mentat [3k?\]: idle, it doesnt matter if you are wrong or not
MrShintou [-\]: although this move is huge, and puts white futher ahead.
]
;B[ok]C[Laeme [2d\]: big, b could do damage at bottom
PowerP [3d\]: q8 a mistake maybe?
Singer [10k\]: I seem to remember that the first time I counted a game, the sum of the two players points was more than 361, which didn't quite seem to work somehow...
Laeme [2d\]: maybe b can make some points in center
]
;W[qk]C[MrShintou [-\]: h9 
MrShintou [-\]: for white if manageable
Medou [1d\]: Jenghis, kikashi at C9 makes it very alive
jshift [20k?\]: What's the time?
topfar [1d\]: O5?
NeverCare [?\]: s6?
Rocker [4d\]: d11
mentat [3k?\]: 9:20 pm
]
;B[nr]
;W[mr]
;B[os]C[USGO1 [-\]: white has 16 minutes left
jelifysh [9k\]: q7 ?
USGO1 [-\]: black has more
PowerP [3d\]: why not this first and then q8
liberaji [2k\]: uhoh
Laeme [2d\]: hmm, this that big?
USGO1 [-\]: black has 29.
Rocker [4d\]: hmm
Laeme [2d\]: even to give up sente now
liberaji [2k\]: never doubt the pros
Laeme [2d\]: or has it threat
]
;W[mm]C[NeverCare [?\]: comeon usgo keep on it
kukulis4 [2d\]: black center moyo is dangerous
liberaji [2k\]: thre's some kikashi in there for B
Rocker [4d\]: b has to make some mmokus in centre in order to win
Dugong [2k\]: b+19 ~ SE Factory
hollywood [3k\]: is it broadcast?
liberaji [2k\]: it's all about mao's you know
Laeme [2d\]: this is broadcast
hollywood [3k\]: in tv?
theTick [3k?\]: seems like very even game
NeverCare [?\]: lol
Laeme [2d\]: oh like that, don't think so
hollywood [3k\]: nm
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[dr]C[liberaji [2k\]: here comes the bang
theTick [3k?\]: this being played in Portland right now?
NeverCare [?\]: building ko threats
Singer [10k\]: Where is the ko that they're buildling threats for?
]
;W[fr]C[iNguyen [4d\]: yose
NeverCare [?\]: *shrugs* i just dont see any other reason to play d2
iNguyen [4d\]: techniques
Rocker [4d\]: hmm?
topfar [1d\]: N6?
MrShintou [-\]: m10 l10 l11 n10 n11 m11 is a ko...
Rocker [4d\]: f2 means w thinks hes got enough???????
francium87 [2k\]: why that exchange?
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be this is a check
Rocker [4d\]: this is sneak exploring 
Rocker [4d\]: sneaky
NeverCare [?\]: :)
og [9k\]: "black thinking about a4. later when there is no aji, white would c2 not f2, so now is teh right time to play it" -- swordfish7 :)
NeverCare [?\]: rocker, youre alright...
Rocker [4d\]: asking how he will resspondes
csgo [?\]: if b does not respond, w m8 pretty destructive
]
;B[mn]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: if white played C2 then black would try to invade the bottom
topfar [1d\]: Good!
PowerP [3d\]: just m5 here?
BLEACH [2d\]: מיכל?
]
;W[lm]C[liberaji [2k\]: oh it's on bleepch
kukulis4 [2d\]: this is a pro move, anybody understands M7 ?
NeverCare [?\]: to cut perhaps?
kukulis4 [2d\]: because I dont :/
MrShintou [-\]: ... hes taking away eye shape.
Takora [7k\]: it's not meant to be understood, it's a pro move :)
MrShintou [-\]: he can run down to R7
jkrd: just  to cut
liberaji [2k\]: w is not pro...
topfar [1d\]: L8?
blackrain [6k\]: d11the group is yet alive stops the m3-m4 connect
NeverCare [?\]: what is need for eye shape when black has a couple of outs?
csgo [?\]: b l8
hori: wouldn't have played it if it doesn't work?:)
jst4fun [5k\]: m7 is preventing b m3?
Singer [10k\]: O7, O6, O8?
Rocker [4d\]: i feel b is having tough time 
confounded [4k\]: o6?
MrShintou [-\]: because if black plays strange then white can disconnect at N9 later. nevercare
MrShintou [-\]: and then black may lose 3 stones or center thickness.
Singer [10k\]: No, O5, O6, O7 is what I meant...
Rocker [4d\]: bambooooooooo joint!
NeverCare [?\]: ah i see
Singer [10k\]: No, that's wrong too... Just ignore me.
]
;B[ln]C[iNguyen [4d\]: rocker
kukulis4 [2d\]: Rocker: you mean L5 ?
iNguyen [4d\]: stop talking about joints, there are kids about
]
;W[nm]C[MrShintou [-\]: this is error i believe,  white will run down and attack the 3 stones.
NeverCare [?\]: lol reefer reference
MrShintou [-\]: drugs are bad mkay?
Rocker [4d\]: KUKU i meant l8
blackrain [6k\]: p6 ftw
iNguyen [4d\]: black llost
NeverCare [?\]: I concur
liberaji [2k\]: M3
Jenghis [2k\]: b m3 or m4?
idle [9k\]: 9k ftw ^^
iNguyen [4d\]: something will die here
idle [9k\]: pro couting
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be black can use squeeze tesuji here
Rocker [4d\]: now l8
MrShintou [-\]: USGO1 does feng yun seem disgusted?
jsc [14k\]: has anyone been watching this game from the beggining? i watched the beginning and i just came back
MrShintou [-\]: l8 h9 certainly
MrShintou [-\]: or m10 maybe
theTick [3k?\]: ya, can we get some commentary from the scene?
Sampi [3k\]: b must l8, no?
Aimless [1k\]: B J8?
jsc [14k\]: mr shintou you are still here have you ever left???
Singer [10k\]: What is the time like for them now?
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be P6 first ?
blackrain [6k\]: bj8 then w g7 and then ahhh black screems
MrShintou [-\]: never :D
liberaji [2k\]: maybe O5
USGO1 [-\]: white has 14 minutes left
jsc [14k\]: cool 
csgo [?\]: w m7 won't die, just which part of b can be saved
kukulis4 [2d\]: USGO1: is there a byomi ?
WildW [1k\]: how much time does black have?
USGO1 [-\]: more
Swordfish7 [5d\]: no such thing today as a tournament with no byo yomi
topfar [1d\]: J9?
USGO1 [-\]: I can't see her clock to give a more precise answer.
Alebrije [22k\]: zchen never dissapoint me
NeverCare [?\]: so walk over and look 
USGO1 [-\]: I will update black's time when I can
NeverCare [?\]: for us
NeverCare [?\]: pleeease?
MrShintou [-\]: Black has 19minutes.
NeverCare [?\]: prove it
MrShintou [-\]: *magic*
NeverCare [?\]: ah there it is
jst4fun [5k\]: b m4?
Singer [10k\]: How come zchen can give a 9p a close game, but is still only KGS 7d?
dutch2dan [2d\]: close?
blackrain [6k\]: blitz does wonders
hori: we may not need byomi
clockwork [1k?\]: couse pro ranks ara relative
WildW [1k\]: this is the same z chen?
MrShintou [-\]: since Cgoban3 destroyed kyu ranks the KGS dans are quite decent :D
WildW [1k\]: zhaonian = darkmage?
AtkAndDef [3d\]: the question is why cant u give a close game?
PowerP [3d\]: white is darkmage
PowerP [3d\]: yes
clockwork [1k?\]: yeah, is darkmage
JohnGu [1k\]: as matter of fact w is a very week 9p.
Singer [10k\]: In what way are kyu ranks destroyed?
francium87 [2k\]: no
CardCaptor [1k\]: wait, didn't he go to feng yun's school?
USGO1 [-\]: black has 17 minutes left
clockwork [1k?\]: w is not a 9p
Singer [10k\]: I think weak is probably relative when you're 9p ;)
francium87 [2k\]: feng is not weak. 
hori: d12 may've been a mistake
kukulis4 [2d\]: does pro ranks mean handicap games between different strenght profs, or it doesnt ?
hori: could've lost the tide of the game there
JohnGu [1k\]: i mean b 
SunnyD [3d\]: 9p gives 1p 8 stones
blackrain [6k\]: eyes they offer handi
CardCaptor [1k\]: i think someone told me ZC studied under FY
Enraiha [8k\]: lol sunny that's not true
francium87 [2k\]: her hoighlight was about 10 years ago when she was one of the strongest women pro's. she is a teacher now. maybe less sharp by comparison. but not weak.
WildW [1k\]: 1p gives kgs 1d 10 stones
AtkAndDef [3d\]: 9p gives 1 p 2-3 stoens
Enraiha [8k\]: once you're a pro in general it becomes relative
topfar [1d\]: B is a 9p
PowerP [3d\]: so mogo is close to 1p strength of course
sadass: m3 lookes good
jsc [14k\]: p6 maybe???
JohnGu [1k\]: she retired from go long time ago. hardly play.
CardCaptor [1k\]: isn't the P rank more for signifying what' you've accomplished?
SunnyD [3d\]: mogo stronger, won 9H
CardCaptor [1k\]: now how strong u are
CardCaptor [1k\]: *not
Rocker [4d\]: its like sometimes equador can beat brazil in soccer!
bolb [-\]: you're right cardcaptor
AtkAndDef [3d\]: not with new system
CardCaptor [1k\]: really?
indianayk [5d\]: 9p can not give 2 stone handicape to 1p
CardCaptor [1k\]: i mean like lee sedol
MrShintou [-\]: w = 54+komi, b = 52
AtkAndDef [3d\]: u need to win ta certain % of games to increase rank
CardCaptor [1k\]: wins a tournament or whatever
CardCaptor [1k\]: gets 2 ranks
AtkAndDef [3d\]: so u must be stronger
francium87 [2k\]: and the 9p means that at a point in her life she accomplished something in the world of go
hori: as far as i know, in korea, 1p gives 9p 2 stones
CardCaptor [1k\]: yeah
CardCaptor [1k\]: wait what?
haf31k [?\]: korean scary <<
topfar [1d\]: Looks KGS 9Ds are as strong as 9Ps.
NeverCare [?\]: gives or takes hori
GeorgeW [-\]: Doesn't the rank discussion ever get old?
MrShintou [-\]: whats important is how white will make the center even.  (if possible)
]
;B[ll]C[WildW [1k\]: kgs 1d = 10p
CardCaptor [1k\]: obviously not
Enraiha [8k\]: LOL definitely not topfar
francium87 [2k\]: koreans gup rating is not much different from kyu
MrShintou [-\]: h9 only move.
JohnGu [1k\]: she was very strong when she got 9p title.
Singer [10k\]: I think I've lost faith in the distinction between professional and amateur...
liberaji [2k\]: saves both, pretty easy ;+}
confounded [4k\]: did feng yun give handicap stones to zchen?
Sampi [3k\]: you shouldnt ask serious questions on kgs kibbitz
GeorgeW [-\]: Thanks Shintou, talk about game please
MrShintou [-\]: <3 gw
AznKid93 [1d\]: confounded, feng yun is playing black....
CardCaptor [1k\]: black still intends to take points in the center
hori: rank is really meaningless- professional athletes, for ex, don't have a rank- Ali 9p?
kukulis4 [2d\]: good shape
Rocker [4d\]: now cut
NeverCare [?\]: lol
NeverCare [?\]: confound
NeverCare [?\]: lol
MrShintou [-\]: i think the only 3 ways into the center are m10 ,h9 , d11 
]
;W[on]C[Rocker [4d\]: oops
blackrain [6k\]: done
GeorgeW [-\]: what center lol
CardCaptor [1k\]: not h8?
theripper [2d\]: m3
jkrd: m4
jst4fun [5k\]: b m3
CardCaptor [1k\]: or j8
MrShintou [-\]: it may not be big gw, but its enough if b can take 10 points there.
GeorgeW [-\]: i hvaent counted
GeorgeW [-\]: Just got here
liberaji [2k\]: i like J8
CardCaptor [1k\]: more than 10
GeorgeW [-\]: what was your count
MrShintou [-\]: white is up by about 7, but yose and the rest of the game looks good for black.
CardCaptor [1k\]: white has dead stones
kukulis4 [2d\]: I think black is ahead now, if we take center moyo in to account
indianayk [5d\]: in general, 9d amatuer is weaker than any pro.
MrShintou [-\]: MrShintou [-\]: w = 54+komi, b = 52
liberaji [2k\]: he says b *needs* only 10 there
blackrain [6k\]: is there komi?
GeorgeW [-\]: I'll double check that
csgo [?\]: I think b d11 sente
jsc [14k\]: you see you see i told black to go there but no one listens to the DDKs
kill4fun [2d\]: saichina is 9d here
MrShintou [-\]: but i only count certain points
PowerP [3d\]: w d11 seems big
sinprejic [3k\]: I think the question is can black play o9 to keep the 3 connected now...
Rocker [4d\]: n9?????
HNK [2k\]: a 9d is weaker than a 1p? o.O
Sampi [3k\]: if w can reduce around j12, i think he can win
Rocker [4d\]: j8????
CardCaptor [1k\]: well
kukulis4 [2d\]: h9 looks a big point
CardCaptor [1k\]: more like any p would be a 9d
HNK [2k\]: i see
francium87 [2k\]: 7d=1p in most cases
indianayk [5d\]: yes
GeorgeW [-\]: I count 64 at least for black
Singer [10k\]: At this year's congress, though, a lot of 8d amateurs seem to have been beating pros...
Sampi [3k\]: j9 ?
clockwork [1k?\]: w is actualy winning i think
jsc [14k\]: HNK can we play or do you wanna play free with a 2dan???
sadass: M3
jsc [14k\]: ......
Sampi [3k\]: clockwork: i think its very close
MrShintou [-\]: i count 61 now, i hadn't counted in awhile.
Shenron [1d\]: i really want zchen to win
jsc [14k\]: wow i JUST GOT BOOTED for a bad name dude....
GeorgeW [-\]: 64ish for white as well on a rough estimate
liberaji [2k\]: W is really Feng Yun's student?
HNK [2k\]: jsc?
clockwork [1k?\]: esta dificil sampi
CardCaptor [1k\]: i think so lib
GeorgeW [-\]: and given the center situation and look at this yose
]
;B[di]C[GeorgeW [-\]: black is definitely favorable
Sampi [3k\]: si, creo que ninguno de los dos puede contar tan bien :P
MrShintou [-\]: agreed gw.
HNK [2k\]: i wanna pratice against 1/2k, sry
topfar [1d\]: B is still ahead!
clockwork [1k?\]: las habilidades de zchen en el yose son muy buenas
jsc [14k\]: okey-dokey
mentat [3k?\]: e', nao ta mole nao pra preto
kukulis4 [2d\]: 9p gives 1p 2 stones handi AND 7d is equal to 1p => 9p = 9d
liberaji [2k\]: oh suddenly everyone likes Black?
clockwork [1k?\]: y segun mi conteo tiene algo de ventaja
MrShintou [-\]: this game became difficult for white when he moved p 18 =D
CardCaptor [1k\]: no
Sampi [3k\]: imagino que las de un pro seran mejores, no?
GeorgeW [-\]: b needs to defend against n9 soon
HNK [2k\]: ñ ta mole, lol
CardCaptor [1k\]: i liked black since juan asked for a count
Shenron [1d\]: you think w has a chance GW?
CardCaptor [1k\]: everyone was like What?!
HNK [2k\]: eu ñ percebo nada deste jogo 
Medou [1d\]: Who said it was impossible for mingjiu ? ^^
clockwork [1k?\]: pues no siempre dude, zchen es muy bueno, hay pros ke dejan mucho ke desear
]
;W[hk]C[AtkAndDef [3d\]: 30k kgs = 9p and 9d kgd =-9p
PowerP [3d\]: ooh
PowerP [3d\]: w wants it all
clockwork [1k?\]: estas deacuerdo en ke un 9p no deberia estar en esta situacion contra un amateur
GeorgeW [-\]: he needs it all, he acnt defend
jkrd: can b kill?
Singer [10k\]: cut! :D
blackrain [6k\]: left just die?
CardCaptor [1k\]: wait, left dies?
Sampi [3k\]: d11 was big
csgo [?\]: I think so, c11
CardCaptor [1k\]: how
Sampi [3k\]: but, was it sente?
nijn12 [3k?\]: C9?
GeorgeW [-\]: gut instinct is that a13 probably kills
kukulis4 [2d\]: black won
prixdefer [1k\]: big attack on L13 and M8 groups
GeorgeW [-\]: or c9
Rocker [4d\]: i think b is in disarray
PowerP [3d\]: b wouldnt have played d11 if it wasnt sente
PowerP [3d\]: sente against the left that is
csgo [?\]: sorry c9 first and then c11
Musketeer [3d\]: left will get squeezed, but not die
Peaches [3k\]: b can get c9 and c11 in sente... then the left is 7 in a row on the 2nd line and dead?
SunnyD [3d\]: H9 more sente
kukulis4 [2d\]: M9 stones bigger than B12
Shenron [1d\]: w would not play h9 if he knew he would die
PowerP [3d\]: yes, my phrasing was poor
jshift [20k?\]: Time?
csgo [?\]: no then a10 kill
liberaji [2k\]: J10 is fine
nijn12 [3k?\]: think bC9, wB9, bC11, wB11, bA10 kills
PowerP [3d\]: the center is bigger then the left
NeverCare [?\]: if left died it would be big
kukulis4 [2d\]: tengen
Pedro6548 [11k\]: b wining right?
francium87 [2k\]: can he really kill it though?
kurikuri [4k\]: if black played c9
Rocker [4d\]: b a7 kills
kurikuri [4k\]: where are white's eyes?
kukulis4 [2d\]: black kills left, white kills center and wins
]
;B[am]C[topfar [1d\]: L11?
francium87 [2k\]: black doesnt feel that way
liberaji [2k\]: good call Rocker
NeverCare [?\]: ooh seems fengyun the professional agrees with me
sinprejic [3k\]: Uh oh... something's gonna die :)
NeverCare [?\]: give her a pat on the back for me USGO
SunnyD [3d\]: This B got balls.
NeverCare [?\]: actually....
appleseeds [7k?\]: uh, b is female
Enraiha [8k\]: lol actually no she doesn't
telchar [-\]: i dont think sso
liberaji [2k\]: she's a maneater... lalala
splashdot [4k\]: eyeballs
confounded [4k\]: can w kill b center?
hori: ok let's watch the balls guys
kukulis4 [2d\]: black doesnt need to save all center stones, only one of M9 or L6
idle [9k\]: i think it lives ^^
csgo [?\]: w shall can try, l11?
blackrain [6k\]: dosen't have to no b leads due to lower right reduction
francium87 [2k\]: why would c9 a8 a10 not work for white?
idle [9k\]: y
idle [9k\]: a8 and c9 are sente
USGO1 [-\]: Michael Chen has gotten up from the table again with his clock running.
sinprejic [3k\]: and just how would one save L6 without saving m9?
liberaji [2k\]: not much time to think...
USGO1 [-\]: he has 10 minutes left
CardCaptor [1k\]: cus b9
Pedro6548 [11k\]: c8 then b10 alive right?
Pedro6548 [11k\]: a8
USGO1 [-\]: back
mentat [3k?\]: w is dead
NeverCare [?\]: hes freaking out!!
SunnyD [3d\]: where did he go?
clockwork [1k?\]: c9 is the move i think
blackrain [6k\]: b very strong
]
;W[kj]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah
clockwork [1k?\]: !!!!!
BlackSmurf [2k\]: O.o
kukulis4 [2d\]: 9p :)
mentat [3k?\]: ow yeah babee
Capsule [3d\]: very...interesting.
telchar [-\]: go go mage kid
Swordfish7 [5d\]: why did white let that die...
idle [9k\]: tenuki = pro :D?
Singer [10k\]: L10=acknowledgement that left is dead?
Capsule [3d\]: yes Singer
]
;B[jj]C[Capsule [3d\]: however i dont think B is going to die here
Swordfish7 [5d\]: no way to kill black here
liberaji [2k\]: D11 is acknowledgement :+}
ketchup [6k\]: or it's just sayin this is bigger
]
;W[ji]C[francium87 [2k\]: no
]
;B[ij]C[francium87 [2k\]: its dead
Pedro6548 [11k\]: he shoudln'd have played h9
kukulis4 [2d\]: white stones too thin
sinprejic [3k\]: w seems pretty thin to catch black.
topfar [1d\]: B wins!
Singer [10k\]: w L9?
]
;W[ck]
;B[dl]
;W[al]
;B[ao]C[Rocker [4d\]: a10
clockwork [1k?\]: a13?
MrShintou [-\]: a10 
hellboy [-\]: dead
CardCaptor [1k\]: 10
CardCaptor [1k\]: is fine
Pedro6548 [11k\]: b10
Swordfish7 [5d\]: a10 a13
mentat [3k?\]: dead meat
hellboy [-\]: a10 b9 a9 a13
]
;W[bj]
;B[ak]
;W[bk]C[Rocker [4d\]: hmm daed
idle [9k\]: lol
Rocker [4d\]: a10 no work
]
;B[ag]
;W[ci]C[GeorgeW [-\]: is this resign sequence?
CardCaptor [1k\]: u are correct sir
MrShintou [-\]: yes gw
Pedro6548 [11k\]: save
francium87 [2k\]: black made a mistake!
Singer [10k\]: live?
francium87 [2k\]: rofl
ketchup [6k\]: hmm
kurikuri [4k\]: dead...
blackrain [6k\]: a11
Goleath [2k\]: k9 for W?
csgo [?\]: why not c11 
kukulis4 [2d\]: no
Swordfish7 [5d\]: why didnt white push?
sinprejic [3k\]: resignation sequence?
kurikuri [4k\]: a11 kills
hori: pre-work to catch white
kukulis4 [2d\]: this is just diffferent killing style
Dugong [2k\]: need d10
kukulis4 [2d\]: profish style
idle [9k\]: ^^
CardCaptor [1k\]: the professional i don't mess around style
prixdefer [1k\]: makes b stronger on outside, too
mentat [3k?\]: too bad. w had a chance
kukulis4 [2d\]: no
Swordfish7 [5d\]: white didnt lose yet
MrShintou [-\]: can white kill black =D
nijn12 [3k?\]: wA10 would have been correct
francium87 [2k\]: d10 aji?
CardCaptor [1k\]: getting killed is pretty disheartening though..
kukulis4 [2d\]: wA10 doesnt help
Nick8a [2k\]: looks dead
PowerP [3d\]: does b have to kill it?
Nick8a [2k\]: a11?
Pedro6548 [11k\]: is dead right?
confounded [4k\]: it's over?
Pedro6548 [11k\]: in a11
sinprejic [3k\]: Only thing left to try is kill black l9 looks interesting for w
nijn12 [3k?\]: instead of wB10
kurikuri [4k\]: maybe black is looking at w d10 be10
liberaji [2k\]: B counting
Kita [3k\]: d10 looks scary
HNK [2k\]: a11 kills it i think
Swordfish7 [5d\]: yes kuri
PowerP [3d\]: what if b just plays d10
Nick8a [2k\]: d10 fine
Swordfish7 [5d\]: a11 dangerous since black has d10 defect
Nick8a [2k\]: b should a11
csgo [?\]: b needs g7
]
;B[ai]C[HNK [2k\]: :)
Nick8a [2k\]: but 2 strong groups
Singer [10k\]: :D
Nick8a [2k\]: sgould br fine
uuffy: whoa b 9p...
Jesters [1k\]: hehe reading hability !
Nick8a [2k\]: can ecape ither waty
Nick8a [2k\]: way*
Musketeer [3d\]: d10 now
kurikuri [4k\]: a12
kurikuri [4k\]: then d10
csgo [?\]: sorry wrong reading
USGO1 [-\]: black has 7 minutes left
Kita [3k\]: a12 kills white liberties
MrShintou [-\]: white cannot get enough liberties
Kita [3k\]: cannot a12
Nick8a [2k\]: not a12 first
Musketeer [3d\]: a12 liberty
Vinicius [1k\]: a12 d10 very dumb
blackrain [6k\]: dead
Pedro6548 [11k\]: g7?
kurikuri [4k\]: what's wrong with a12 first?
USGO1 [-\]: black has 5 minutes left
blackrain [6k\]: a12 d10
Singer [10k\]: How long does white have?
USGO1 [-\]: oops: *white* has 7 minutes left
SunnyD [3d\]: B?
USGO1 [-\]: black has 5
topfar [1d\]: B wins for sure
clockwork [1k?\]: d10 works?
liberaji [2k\]: yeah why not A12?
Rocker [4d\]: i think my initiall call for A10 insatead of b10  would work????????
MXHero [-\]: g10 is the best chance
Nick8a [2k\]: dont think so
BreatheGo [5k\]: w can use aji to seal b's center group off
confounded [4k\]: what's so special about this d10?
francium87 [2k\]: j10 then d10?
kurikuri [4k\]: oh
BreatheGo [5k\]: possible kill?
kurikuri [4k\]: g10 is nice
clockwork [1k?\]: d10 e10 e11?
kukulis4 [2d\]: I tried A10 in the cloned game, there is still a killing sequence after it
USGO1 [-\]: white has 5 minutes left now
]
;W[dj]C[Capsule [3d\]: d10 e10 e11 f10 d13 d12
kurikuri [4k\]: g10 is great
Vinicius [1k\]: A10 B8 A9 A13
Capsule [3d\]: i dont think this works
Jesters [1k\]: then after e11? it's not an eye
idle [9k\]: white wins
kill4fun [2d\]: seems hopeless
clockwork [1k?\]: d10 ooks fine for me
PrimalFire [12k?\]: doesnt work
clockwork [1k?\]: oh
idle [9k\]: +1 liberti
indianayk [5d\]: Don't understand b10. should have been played at a11 for life
mof [1d?\]: black has f10 no?
mof [1d?\]: after w e11?
topfar [1d\]: F9?
Rocker [4d\]: mmmmm
mof [1d?\]: like this e10 e11 f10 d13 d12 
francium87 [2k\]: j10 will help him
blackrain [6k\]: bf7 then cuts whites escapoe
francium87 [2k\]: h10*
idle [9k\]: ha!
]
;B[fj]C[prixdefer [1k\]: squeeze bottom left not dangerous enough to kill centre
mof [1d?\]: this must be ok too
Rocker [4d\]: I READ IT OUT HONESTLY I THINK B10 WAS A BLUNDER!
iReRaise [9k\]: B took undo :)
USGO1 [-\]: slammed on the table!
]
;W[ah]C[PowerP [3d\]: lol
]
;B[aj]C[liberaji [2k\]: who W?
xancel [3k\]: who slammed on the table
USGO1 [-\]: on the board... F10
Kaydat [3k\]: ...
mentat [3k?\]: zchen slammed?
Kaydat [3k\]: w needs to learn to resign?
blackrain [6k\]: feng
topfar [1d\]: Game over?
confounded [4k\]: feng disgusted because chen doesn't resign
Sakata [3d\]: i think W has resigned a lot and knows how to do it
mof [1d?\]: w is the guy who plays here a lot?
Slain [1k\]: why f10? e10 would have been enough?
mentat [3k?\]: omg, you gotta setup video broadcast for the next tournament
mof [1d?\]: zchen?
beetle [2d?\]: how could a11 for life? indianayk?
francium87 [2k\]: noone gets disgusted about go...
clockwork [1k?\]: yeah
mentat [3k?\]: yes
mof [1d?\]: ty
USGO2 [-\]: there is no disgust there... I am watching now
SunnyD [3d\]: then how do we troll with video?
Kaydat [3k\]: theres also nothing for w to do either >_>
liberaji [2k\]: in a "here's a nice tesuji for you boy" way?
mentat [3k?\]: we troll in kgs
kukulis4 [2d\]: Rocker: neither A10 nor A11 (after A5) does help white to survive
kurikuri [4k\]: did g10 before d10 work?
PowerP [3d\]: i wonder if w has anything left
sinprejic [3k\]: actually if playing firmly, perhaps she is playing head games :)
]
;W[gi]C[clockwork [1k?\]: mmmmm
Sakata [3d\]: is it obvious that B wins?
csgo [?\]: maybe g10 still work
Sakata [3d\]: what about center group?
]
;B[fi]C[PowerP [3d\]: seems very hard to kill
okiol [5k\]: i cheer for w!
Enraiha [8k\]: i think that's what g11 was aimed at 
ketchup [6k\]: spirit is best!
Sakata [3d\]: hard maybe, but impossible?
]
;W[fk]C[Ruzinus [7k?\]: very hard is not always impossible.
Rocker [4d\]: KUKI I THINK A10 WOULD MAKE IT alive
PowerP [3d\]: not impossible i dont think
Ruzinus [7k?\]: I don't think white would continue if he thought it was hopeless.
francium87 [2k\]: nice
PowerP [3d\]: we will see
Capsule [3d\]: rocker i dont think A10 would have worked...unless i misread.
csgo [?\]: b needs to take care of center quick
Slarty [1d\]: a10 b9 a9 a13 is good enough, no?
kukulis4 [2d\]: white has balls too
Makadoudou [5d\]: a 10 a13
francium87 [2k\]: it dont rocker... your still 4d
sinprejic [3k\]: I guess we will find out if w to play and kill is an 8d problem or harder than 8d :)
Rocker [4d\]: i thought i misread but i thimk i read correct????
Kaydat [3k\]: so what is this?
ketchup [6k\]: then show sequence rocker
ryot [14k\]: So...............black won...right?
Kaydat [3k\]: w to kill? :P
Enraiha [8k\]: lol b can't ignore this
csgo [?\]: g8
]
;B[ek]C[MrShintou [-\]: h11  .. luck
ketchup [6k\]: g12 now?
okiol [5k\]: ok ,wait, so what are you saying, rocker? what move should be changed to where?
ketchup [6k\]: or e11 then g12
Enraiha [8k\]: lol if he ignored e9 e10 e8
]
;W[ii]C[csgo [?\]: b lose center
USGO1 [-\]: white has 1 minute left
Singer [10k\]: what does b have?
Ruzinus [7k?\]: fengs time?
WiseGuy [1d?\]: Hm, this doesn't work.
blackrain [6k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: I don't know exactly, but I wil let you know when it's 1 minutes
clockwork [1k?\]: mmmmm, the situation is not that ugly for w
]
;B[hj]C[sinprejic [3k\]: b out
Kaydat [3k\]: yeah
Kaydat [3k\]: b is out
ketchup [6k\]: maybe white will play k9
Capsule [3d\]: W can reasign here
PowerP [3d\]: yeah
Capsule [3d\]: resign*
topfar [1d\]: B wins a lot!
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
Kaydat [3k\]: b is too strong
sinprejic [3k\]: mm wait... question is can w threaten m13
csgo [?\]: g10
Singer [10k\]: rocker is unconvinced :P
liberaji [2k\]: nice game
francium87 [2k\]: i wish i could give him like 15 minutes....
Rocker [4d\]: i think it doesnt work!!!!! hehe
USGO1 [-\]: white is in byo yomi now
WiseGuy [1d?\]: B didn't win a lot, she kept a lot.
USGO1 [-\]: he has 5 periods of 1 minute
Kaydat [3k\]: give us the sequence then rocker
Kaydat [3k\]: :P
Singer [10k\]: can w still kill one or two of those black groups?
csgo [?\]: wait k9 first
Rocker [4d\]: 1d showed the sequence
USGO1 [-\]: in the morning they play with 30 second byo yomi
Singer [10k\]: can b M4?
Musketeer [3d\]: k9
mof [1d?\]: this is g10
]
;W[bi]
;B[aj]C[mof [1d?\]: oh
francium87 [2k\]: whats the byo yomi here?
mof [1d?\]: ok no
kill4fun [2d\]: time suji
ketchup [6k\]: yay for timesuji
Rocker [4d\]: but i was right with b b9 kill move OK?? JUST confused with stones filled now!!!!????
liberaji [2k\]: timesuji
USGO1 [-\]: I think sometimes they're still thinking that way
Makadoudou [5d\]: yes
]
;W[gj]
;B[hi]C[ketchup [6k\]: usgo1 are you not allowed to tell them?
]
;W[jk]C[Capsule [3d\]: out-tesuji'd
sinprejic [3k\]: h13
highhand [5k\]: who is doing this exploration now? B?
USGO1 [-\]: black has 1 minute left
MrShintou [4d\]: rocker... what is happening...
SunnyD [3d\]: W wins
highhand [5k\]: oh so the game goes on
liberaji [2k\]: oh MrS turned his rank on
Musketeer [3d\]: black made a mistake here
francium87 [2k\]: 1  munute before how much byoyomi?
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun is in byo yomi
USGO1 [-\]: 5 periods of 1 minute
mof [1d?\]: black did play tenuki three times on the centre group
francium87 [2k\]: ahh
xancel [3k\]: why not L9?
Kaydat [3k\]: j8
xancel [3k\]: and connect N12
badukluv [2k\]: that's huge
jkrd: center group is even bigger than the left group
topfar [1d\]: G12?
sinprejic [3k\]: g12
USGO1 [-\]: black has 4 periods remaining
Rocker [4d\]: b is dead
Singer [10k\]: Can b L9, then cut at J8?
]
;B[lj]C[Singer [10k\]: Or is that pushing it? :P
sinprejic [3k\]: oh cool
Rocker [4d\]: no i m wrong
MrShintou [-\]: this is becoming complex..
ketchup [6k\]: singer, bl19 leads to j9 sente for white i believe
blackrain [6k\]: to far for me to read
PowerP [3d\]: becoming?
sinprejic [3k\]: MrShintou is a master of understatement :)
USGO1 [-\]: white has 4 periods left
prixdefer [1k\]: ko for centre looks like l11
csgo [?\]: h12
MrShintou [-\]: tru dat
fiftymm [11k\]: w h12?
]
;W[hh]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: each player finds the best move that we cannot foresee
nijn12 [3k?\]: why no just J9?
YangX [4d\]: if white wins this now that would be amazing
Kaydat [3k\]: ..
Singer [10k\]: 'oops', says feng yun :P
]
;B[mh]C[Pedro6548 [11k\]: what a fc..!?
Enraiha [8k\]: is b really that far ahead?
SunnyD [3d\]: L7
PowerP [3d\]: can w capture p9 now?
xancel [3k\]: =) i said it N12
Pedro6548 [11k\]: why ,10?
Jesters [1k\]: only 8 points, so...
Pedro6548 [11k\]: m10
Enraiha [8k\]: i don't feel like w is really that far behind... :(
Rocker [4d\]: m3
theripper [2d\]: l7 huge
kukulis4 [2d\]: white can take L6 stones now
csgo [?\]: l7
]
;W[km]C[Singer [10k\]: Is J10 a fair exchange to save the rest of her groups?
Kaydat [3k\]: hmm
]
;B[il]C[csgo [?\]: b is not out of danger yet
]
;W[ik]C[Rocker [4d\]: hmm
Kaydat [3k\]: hmmmmmmmmm
Kaydat [3k\]: this is interesting
Jesters [1k\]: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Pedro6548 [11k\]: f8
sinprejic [3k\]: n11
Takora [7k\]: why not N11?
]
;B[eb]
;W[fb]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: looks like b still ahead
Rocker [4d\]: its it still playable??
Takora [7k\]: or M11
kukulis4 [2d\]: black killed more stones in exchange, but white destroyed the center moyo
hori: is there komi?
ketchup [6k\]: yes
sinprejic [3k\]: because it's time for yose ... why didn't I think of that :)
Capsule [3d\]: yes hori
]
;B[fa]C[hori: how many?
]
;W[gb]C[Volchishka [3d\]: s6
ketchup [6k\]: 8
Kiheiji [13k\]: lol
t0Strong4u [-\]: s14 
Musketeer [3d\]: w behind
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun used those two moves to think almost 2 minutes
kurosama [2d\]: what if white j14 ?
]
;B[ms]C[csgo [?\]: w m11
t0Strong4u [-\]: USGO...can you please tell us the times
kurosama [2d\]: oops nvm
MrShintou [-\]: Timesuji.
t0Strong4u [-\]: please
francium87 [2k\]: with a 13 available... e10 makes sense followed by f8 for white
]
;W[lr]C[francium87 [2k\]: nvm
MrShintou [-\]: white has 4 boyo yomi 1x1min, black has 5 i think
Enraiha [8k\]: both in byo yomi for the last time lol
liberaji [2k\]: P16 is dead I was wondering about that too :+\]
USGO1 [-\]: both players have 4 periods left
Singer [10k\]: Is it possible to do byo yomi with analogue game clocks?
]
;B[gm]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: thanks USGO1
WildW [1k\]: they aren't playing blitz dude
sinprejic [3k\]: we do it all the time at the Massachusetts go association Singer
]
;W[fl]C[csgo [?\]: w m11 get the tail
WildW [1k\]: it's not the test of hands
]
;B[fm]C[Rocker [4d\]: w eating m6 and j10 4 stone ponuki makes the loss even?????
hellboy [-\]: o10 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: white forced to play k7
Singer [10k\]: K7 is quite big?
sinprejic [3k\]: but we usually do canadian byo not traditional.
]
;W[mi]
;B[li]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: white is forced*
]
;W[mj]C[Kaydat [3k\]: n10
t0Strong4u [-\]: b way ahead 
Kaydat [3k\]: ouch, b hurting
liberaji [2k\]: nah then B K7
Volchishka [3d\]: no b has k7 now
Enraiha [8k\]: who is we lol? most ppl use non "canadian" byo :)
Singer [10k\]: K12?
csgo [?\]: w j14 cut
topfar [1d\]: L12!
kgs1d [1k\]: b ahead
sinprejic [3k\]: look up a bit... to my previous statement
francium87 [2k\]: looks favorable
liberaji [2k\]: P16 is dead csgo
nijn12 [3k?\]: L12
Musketeer [3d\]: if w can manage to capture the p8 3 stones, he'll be Ok
Takora [7k\]: L12 before K7 though, right?
Kaydat [3k\]: yep
USGO1 [-\]: black has 3 periods remaining
Kaydat [3k\]: its over soon anyways
csgo [?\]: sorry
Kaydat [3k\]: gonna check back after dinner :P
Rocker [4d\]: q13
hellboy [-\]: ~w+5
]
;B[ni]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: yeyeyey Olympics starting tomarrow
t0Strong4u [-\]: sorry, just realized that
lyt: protests goin strong already 
jtn [6k\]: heh
landlady [2k\]: go in the olympics yet?
beer [1d\]: yes
Singer [10k\]: O10 kills O11?
Enraiha [8k\]: lol idiotic protests if i might add
Bruno5940 [16k\]: hi
beer [1d\]: but in October
t0Strong4u [-\]: sorry
embeck [5k\]: in the mind games after the Olympics
lyt: you obviously have a home
sinprejic [3k\]: oh cute. b ahs a second outlet... h8 just realized that
Rocker [4d\]: i feel w gain in the centre might be ok for W!!!!!????
USGO1 [-\]: white has 3 periods left as well, now
Capsule [3d\]: Rocker you are the craziest person i know.
MrShintou [-\]: rocker... B10 is dead...
appleseeds [7k?\]: rocker, easy on the punctuation
kgs1d [1k\]: time to resign...
PowerP [3d\]: b too far ahead
indianayk [5d\]: n10 should have been played at 010
Rocker [4d\]: I KNOW ITS DEAD
liberaji [2k\]: !!!!!11
MrShintou [-\]: thats 32points..
Rocker [4d\]: BUT
]
;W[nj]C[hellboy [-\]: w will win if P9 die
Rocker [4d\]: W WAS AHEAD 
PowerP [3d\]: p9 wont die
kgs1d [1k\]: Q13
MrShintou [-\]: i'll count
francium87 [2k\]: q14?
Rocker [4d\]: and w got somethimg back which is not small
francium87 [2k\]: will that die?
]
;B[br]C[clean [2d\]: if p9 dies, q14 dies also
sinprejic [3k\]: w can kill p9 but can only have one of m6 or m9
t0Strong4u [-\]: l12? 
Singer [10k\]: C2?
Rocker [4d\]: i feel it can make the game close or in fovour of w
kukulis4 [2d\]: time move
sinprejic [3k\]: and to kill p9 I think it's necessary to give q14
]
;W[rf]C[liberaji [2k\]: B buying time again?
PowerP [3d\]: L12...
t0Strong4u [-\]: ah
]
;B[kh]C[kgs1d [1k\]: Q13 is bigger than B2...
]
;W[cr]C[clean [2d\]: now b wins
hellboy [-\]: w mistake
Singer [10k\]: K7?
jtn [6k\]: k7
theripper [2d\]: k7 now
topfar [1d\]: S14 was a losing move
Musketeer [3d\]: s14 is huge
sinprejic [3k\]: disaster for w I think k7 for b
StoneTiger [2d\]: yep k7
hellboy [-\]: o9
t0Strong4u [-\]: s14 was huge
USGO1 [-\]: feng yun is flustered
Makadoudou [5d\]: lol
jst4fun [5k\]: k7?
kill4fun [2d\]: XD
t0Strong4u [-\]: k7 ....
Bruno5940 [16k\]: lol
MrShintou [-\]: b/c she should have won by move 100.  with killin gp17.
]
;B[oj]
;W[oi]C[kgs1d [1k\]: why B didn't go Q13?
USGO1 [-\]: both players have 3 periods of 1 minute byo yomi left
sinprejic [3k\]: ohh nice now p9 lives too
MrShintou [-\]: to save b 4 stones
highhand [5k\]: b can link up
sabercat [8k\]: because need to connect P9 back to M9
topfar [1d\]: K7?
Singer [10k\]: I would find it somewhat ironic if she now resigned in a fit of emotion over Q8 :P
liberaji [2k\]: who counted?
]
;B[mk]C[Musketeer [3d\]: b k7
kgs1d [1k\]: W's S14 is huge...
MrShintou [-\]: i was going to but its very difficutl
kurikuri [4k\]: won't j14 hurt black?
Enraiha [8k\]: err why k7? k7 h8 l8 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: K7
YangX [4d\]: j14 
]
;W[jm]C[Singer [10k\]: oof
liberaji [2k\]: look closer kurikuri
Capsule [3d\]: what does j14 do?
ketchup [6k\]: s15
csgo [?\]: I wonder if w m11 instead of n11?
kukulis4 [2d\]: q10
MrShintou [-\]: j14 fails b/c p17 is dead
t0Strong4u [-\]: yang....j14 does nothing
sinprejic [3k\]: p9 better sinde q10 and q7 I think
t0Strong4u [-\]: dur
]
;B[pj]
;W[qj]C[topfar [1d\]: Q7?
t0Strong4u [-\]: s15 is sente now?
kurosama [2d\]: no
YangX [4d\]: y does j14 not work?
]
;B[rn]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
PowerP [3d\]: what would j14 do?
Capsule [3d\]: MrShintou just said it
calathar [3k\]: p16 dead
YangX [4d\]: ooo
YangX [4d\]: lol
]
;W[db]C[YangX [4d\]: XD
SunnyD [3d\]: W+5
kukulis4 [2d\]: where was previous white move ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: =)
]
;B[cb]C[calathar [3k\]: no worries, we all do it
]
;W[ea]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: before S6
Sakata [3d\]: it is amazing to think of how much reading this must be doing in byoyomi
ketchup [6k\]: j14
YangX [4d\]: time?
kgs1d [1k\]: C19
Musketeer [3d\]: j14 not  urgent
peterson [1k\]: s15
ketchup [6k\]: ah
liberaji [2k\]: now all that blitz shoudl pay off for zchen...
francium87 [2k\]: what is wrong with the SE program? its not doing its usual baffle count. its not even counting
]
;B[ls]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: last time checked was 4periods each @ yang
ketchup [6k\]: keep missing p16
]
;W[ks]C[Makadoudou [5d\]: i bet on w
USGO1 [-\]: 3 periods each
indianayk [5d\]: j13 is sente and big
kurikuri [4k\]: if white plays j14
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun is making great use of her time before playing forced moves
]
;B[ns]
;W[kr]C[hellboy [-\]: ~b+7-10 now
USGO1 [-\]: like that last
kurikuri [4k\]: it looks like black is dead in the center
amadis [2k\]: francium...se doesn't work with these rules
topfar [1d\]: S15?
]
;B[pi]C[ketchup [6k\]: t5..
beer [1d\]: B a3 also very big, though gote
francium87 [2k\]: ok
]
;W[ph]C[francium87 [2k\]: didnt know that
liberaji [2k\]: read the kibitz kurikuri ;0
hellboy [-\]: t5 q7 no point
Kaydat [3k\]: t9?
]
;B[aq]C[ketchup [6k\]: wwhite going to lose o10?
Rocker [4d\]: uh
Rocker [4d\]: q12??
Rocker [4d\]: shouldnt ut be r12??
liberaji [2k\]: now S15 must really be sente
Rocker [4d\]: it
Singer [10k\]: w T17?
MrShintou [-\]: *test*
hellboy [-\]: w can only s15 now
t0Strong4u [-\]: yes
]
;W[sd]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: or that
kukulis4 [2d\]: small monkey
kgs1d [1k\]: T15
]
;B[sc]C[kurikuri [4k\]: seriously, what am I missing?
MrShintou [-\]: white may be ahead.
]
;W[se]C[prixdefer [1k\]: p17
kurikuri [4k\]: it looks like j14 cuts and kills black
prixdefer [1k\]: dead, kurikuri
calathar [3k\]: p16 dead kurikuri, it's been asid like 10 times
iReRaise [9k\]: ..
iReRaise [9k\]: lol
hellboy [-\]: b ahead
iReRaise [9k\]: even i can see that
]
;B[rd]C[indianayk [5d\]: q12 is a strange move as well
Makadoudou [5d\]: c19 
kurikuri [4k\]: ah
kurikuri [4k\]: I wasn't looking at that
calathar [3k\]: or the kibitz it seems :)
ketchup [6k\]: t15
ketchup [6k\]: t5*
liberaji [2k\]: W gote
ketchup [6k\]: ah bah
SunnyD [3d\]: W was ahead after L7
Kaydat [3k\]: r12
]
;W[sn]
;B[pm]C[kgs1d [1k\]: later R12 for B...
Kaydat [3k\]: o-O..
USGO1 [-\]: all other games are finished
t0Strong4u [-\]: the others games just ended
t0Strong4u [-\]: dang you beat me to it 
beer [1d\]: and now every1 is watching this game, live ^_^
ketchup [6k\]: s12 is biggest no?
]
;W[ca]
;B[bb]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: s7 bigest
Singer [10k\]: can b make anything of R12?
MrShintou [-\]: its coming kuku
ketchup [6k\]: s7 worth more than 6 points ?
]
;W[rm]C[liberaji [2k\]: o9 is not yet big enough
ketchup [6k\]: guess so..
]
;B[nk]C[kyuboy [9k\]: j14?
]
;W[ba]C[Rocker [4d\]: see
MrShintou [-\]: wow seki?
kgs1d [1k\]: b has R12 later?
clean [2d\]: take 3
Rocker [4d\]: i dun get q12
]
;B[ni]C[Kaydat [3k\]: wow..
Kaydat [3k\]: what is w doing
liberaji [2k\]: over
kukulis4 [2d\]: six points
]
;W[qh]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: looks like w wins
Kaydat [3k\]: in sente
kukulis4 [2d\]: mistake
Kaydat [3k\]: lol
hellboy [-\]: w can't play o11 ...
]
;B[fh]C[prixdefer [1k\]: w attempt to take eyespace top left, then squeeze l13 but now centre black all ok
]
;W[ab]C[clean [2d\]: q12  quite damaging :)
USGO1 [-\]: both players have 3 periods of 1 minute byo yomi left
kukulis4 [2d\]: Q12 six points mistake
kill4fun [2d\]: i really doest understand q12
PowerP [3d\]: ko?
Singer [10k\]: ko :D
sinprejic [3k\]: probably thought b17 worked.... time pressure
]
;B[bc]C[kill4fun [2d\]: why not r12
zZSakuraZz [1d\]: r12 make a seki if W save that three stone
Musketeer [3d\]: still very close game
t0Strong4u [-\]: a17 worked.....
PowerP [3d\]: i think w leads
]
;W[qm]
;B[pn]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: w lead defiently
mof [1d?\]: I think black
indianayk [5d\]: w lost 7 points due to q12 instead of r12
Slarty [1d\]: if not q12 perhaps s15 would become good for b
]
;W[hn]C[secondslee [3k\]: b19 was 2 pts, and the b attack wasn't sente
Kaydat [3k\]: j13
kill4fun [2d\]: r12 before
Hoole3 [9k\]: who is ahead?
]
;B[ap]C[kaya [18k?\]: white seems to have sente entirely as well as the lead
kill4fun [2d\]: in q12 move
kyuboy [9k\]: suppoesly white
]
;W[ds]C[kaya [18k?\]: but thats just my view
Rocker [4d\]: hmm
MrShintou [-\]: o9 could not be answered the 3 stones were dead.
kyuboy [9k\]: +14
t0Strong4u [-\]: w is ahead
Rocker [4d\]: this game is not close
Singer [10k\]: But it used to be
]
;B[ic]C[Rocker [4d\]: b ahead by 20 on board
]
;W[ib]C[jelifysh [9k\]: isnt black winning? big dead white group on left side...
Singer [10k\]: J13?
oren [4k?\]: black by a little
]
;B[oa]C[HNK [2k\]: w will win
Confuse24 [3k\]: se is wrong right
Hoole3 [9k\]: is this even game?
MrShintou [-\]: white wins in AGA rules though.
calathar [3k\]: se always right
Confuse24 [3k\]: no
Confuse24 [3k\]: it isnt
t0Strong4u [-\]: wth was p19
kyuboy [9k\]: no it isnt
t0Strong4u [-\]: why did she need to play it
calathar [3k\]: it can't be wrong, se is stronger than 9p
Enraiha [8k\]: hmmm? w definitely looks like he is winning...
kaya [18k?\]: one stone handicap?
Mihan [7k\]: it was reverse sente. 
kgs1d [1k\]: B wins less than 5 pts...
USGO2 [-\]: no, it was an even game
kaya [18k?\]: lol how much handi?
t0Strong4u [-\]: why p19......
kaya [18k?\]: even?
hellboy [-\]: b+10
kaya [18k?\]: Alright, then.
liberaji [2k\]: 8 pt komi
Slarty [1d\]: dame counting.
topfar [1d\]: KGS 7d is stronger than 9p
kgs1d [1k\]: b + < 5 pts...
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns
t0Strong4u [-\]: oooo
MrShintou [-\]: thanks USGO1
sinprejic [3k\]: I see b +4 
clean [2d\]: no, this 9p wins long time ago
kyuboy [9k\]: :O
t0Strong4u [-\]: thanks
sabercat [8k\]: 10 pts
USGO1 [-\]: they are discussing the game.
kyuboy [9k\]: ????
oren [4k?\]: good game, thanks
Nano [3k\]: o shyt
liberaji [2k\]: cool game!
TheCATS [2d\]: aww, wanted zhao to win
USGO1 [-\]: Thank you all for watching
SunnyD [3d\]: Q12!!!!
SunnyD [3d\]: W threw game away
blackrain [6k\]: very good game
mof [1d?\]: but so many kivitzers aid w was ahead :D
mof [1d?\]: :)
kukulis4 [2d\]: SE tell white winning, where it can be wrong ?
calathar [3k\]: that's because being a high level kibitzer means you say the opposite of what's going on
MrShintou [-\]: i don't understand AGA rulling completly so its difficult for me to tell
esfsfrg: it s kibbitz
theTick [3k?\]: that'll learn you to listen to kibitzers mof....
kaya [18k?\]: He had sente but white wasn't winning.
topfar [1d\]: W+13?
hellboy [-\]: no ...
secondslee [3k\]: black wins by more than 6
hellboy [-\]: b+9
mof [1d?\]: I know esfrsfrg, v is next to b
ketchup [6k\]: b+7 or so
kaya [18k?\]: The KGS score estimate is wrong
Archie01 [6k?\]: prisoner difference does not count
sabercat [8k\]: i counted 10 on the board
Enraiha [8k\]: i see w+10
Penrose [2k\]: why b P19?
Enraiha [8k\]: so i'm confused
hellboy [-\]: you can count ...
t0Strong4u [-\]: dame counting
mof [1d?\]: I count black ahead
Confuse24 [3k\]: i dont think feng yun can lose
t0Strong4u [-\]: she can
t0Strong4u [-\]: where (like what site) can we see who is leading???
hellboy [-\]: se is ok with japanese rules
esfsfrg: wow mof you actually took the time to type my name
Confuse24 [3k\]: i played here in a 10 game simul she cant
USGO1 [-\]: Signing off... thanks again everyone.
liberaji [2k\]: P!9 because ifW L19 she loses 1 pt
hori: escape!
topfar [1d\]: Did w resign from a won game?
clockwork [1k?\]: b won?
t0Strong4u [-\]: b won...
sadass: lol won gane
uuffy: b+5 ish
liberaji [2k\]: sure W is a summy
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